atom feed31 messages in org.apache.incubator.callback-devRe: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova
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Brian LeRouxNov 22, 2011 10:50 am 
Joe BowserNov 22, 2011 10:51 am 
Filip MajNov 22, 2011 10:52 am 
Laurent HassonNov 22, 2011 10:52 am 
Simon MacDonaldNov 22, 2011 10:53 am 
Andrew LunnyNov 22, 2011 10:56 am 
Ken WallisNov 22, 2011 10:57 am 
Michael BrooksNov 22, 2011 10:57 am 
Ben PlowmanNov 22, 2011 11:01 am 
Becky GibsonNov 22, 2011 11:03 am 
ShazronNov 22, 2011 11:04 am 
Patrick MuellerNov 22, 2011 11:06 am 
Abu Obeida BakhachNov 22, 2011 12:16 pm 
Ryan WilloughbyNov 22, 2011 12:38 pm 
Steven GillNov 22, 2011 12:39 pm 
Ben PlowmanNov 22, 2011 12:45 pm 
Steven GillNov 22, 2011 12:46 pm 
Bertrand DelacretazNov 22, 2011 1:06 pm 
Michael BrooksNov 22, 2011 1:10 pm 
Ross GardlerNov 22, 2011 1:29 pm 
RUDD, BrettNov 22, 2011 2:09 pm 
eduardo pelegri-llopartNov 22, 2011 4:23 pm 
ShazronNov 22, 2011 5:06 pm 
Ben PlowmanNov 22, 2011 7:28 pm 
Laurent HassonNov 22, 2011 9:27 pm 
eduardo pelegri-llopartNov 22, 2011 10:36 pm 
VirasNov 22, 2011 10:56 pm 
Bertrand DelacretazNov 23, 2011 12:29 am 
Ken WallisNov 23, 2011 6:04 am 
Brian LeRouxNov 28, 2011 2:43 pm 
Jukka ZittingNov 29, 2011 3:08 pm 
Subject:Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova
From:Viras (vir@users.sourceforge.net)
Date:Nov 22, 2011 10:56:13 pm
List:org.apache.incubator.callback-dev

Cordova sounds fine to me (thought not sure if my vote even counts ;)).

Cordoba just reminds me to much of 1978 ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlauX42iLy8 ). Sadly we (as in Austrian people) still have to celebrate that happening ;).

Best, Wolfgang

Am 23.11.2011 07:37, schrieb eduardo pelegri-llopart:

Thinking a bit more about on my own reactions to "Cordova"...

If the name ellicits a relationship with the city in Spain, the "v" jumps at me, but if it is a relationship with the street in Vancouver, then it's OK.

A cute logo could create the Vancouver/Street association. Logos don't show in press releases, but they are very visible in web pages.

- eduard/o

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Laurent Hasson <lhas@rim.com> wrote:

Hmmm are we over-thinking this a bit? I am for Cordoba myself, but frankly, either is good, and so much better than anything else we have come up with.

Flip a coin?

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----- Original Message ----- From: Ben Plowman [mailto:ben.@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 09:28 PM To: call@incubator.apache.org <call@incubator.apache.org> Subject: Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

An important consideration is that while many languages, including English, tend to rename countries (Deutschland -> Germany, España -> Spain, Nederland -> The Netherlands), renaming cities is much less common. Berlin stays Berlin, and the same is true of Madrid, Amsterdam, and so forth. Equally important, in this specific case English-speakers still use "Cordoba." If you Google "Cordova, Spain" (with the quotes), Google will ask you "Did you mean 'Cordoba, Spain'?".

I really like that Cordova is the name of the street where Nitobi was based and think that's a perfect basis for naming the project. It has a great answer to the inevitable question "why is it called that?" which other software projects (ahem, GNU) have done a poor job answering. Since far more people have heard of Cordoba the city than have heard of Cordova the street, it makes sense to keep the same great backstory and just change the spelling slightly to better appeal to the majority to whom it sounds peculiar. For those people, I suspect Cordova sounds a bit like "Peking" does to most of us today.

For those reasons, I think Cordoba with a "B" is the best option, and it has my vote, though it appears that some sort of re-voting may be required with multiple options so that it is a proper vote.

--Ben

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Shazron <shaz@gmail.com> wrote:

I appreciate that it is considered a misspelling outside of Spain - but I believe Cordova is just the name known for Córdoba in the English speaking world. Like Germany is the English name for Deutschland or Allemagne in French.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:23 PM, eduardo pelegri-llopart <pele@calterra.com> wrote:

Same here. As a native Spanish speaker, I shudder every time I see Spanish names mistreated in the US (and/or Canada).

I appreciate the intent to link the project to the history of Nitobi, but I doubt most Spanish speaking will recognize it as such. Much more

likely

it

will be seen as (yet another) misspelling of a Spanish name.

- eduard/o

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Abu Obeida Bakhach < Abu.@microsoft.com> wrote:

+1 for Cordoba, which is the more accurate pronunciation. Here are the reasons:

- the original city in Spain is called Cordoba all right. Wiki link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B3rdoba,_Spain City link: http://www.cordoba.es/ - the Cordova name is a variation that came after in naming the US cities in the new world. - as a Spanish and Arabic speaker, Cordoba just sounds right :)

Thanks for considering

-----Original Message----- From: Shazron [mailto:shaz@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:05 AM To: call@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova

+1 for Cordova.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:

The subject says it all. If we're going to change it sooner is better. We had rough consensus for Cordova in earlier threads so lets make it official.

+1