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Subject:[PHP-DEV] 5.4 again
From:Stas Malyshev (smal@sugarcrm.com)
Date:May 8, 2011 4:40:07 pm
List:net.php.lists.internals

Hi!

I has been almost a month since we did our routine talk about 5.4, so here it goes again. The patch for the scalar hints seems to be pretty simple (see http://random-bits-of.info/no_scalar_hints.diff - no generated files included, that will be done on actual commit), so it should not hold us too much. I propose putting current code in a branch and continue without scalar typing for 5.4 - any objections to that?

I would like to propose the following process (of course, dates can be moved around, etc. - I consider phase lengths be more important that actual dates, but any of them can be shifted if reason arises) for 5.4:

- starting now - nominate features for 5.4 (see https://wiki.php.net/todo/php54), discussion on them - May 18 - start voting and debating on features that have no clear consensus support immediately. On the end of May is also phptek, so we could have some discussion there about it if needed. - June 15 (a bit more than a month) - alpha, branching of 5_4, open only for bugfixes and features in TODO list that are approved and can be done by beta time. - July 20 - beta, bugfixes only (if we add a lot of features, we may want to insert another 1-month alpha period, so far it doesn't look like it but may change) - Aug 24 - RC1, then an RC every 2 weeks until stable - Release - somewhere in October or November, depending on the RCs.

I think we need to start moving. Not much is happening in 5.4 now as far as I can see, and we have a good feature set that is long due to be released. For proposing stuff for 5.4, please do it here: https://wiki.php.net/todo/php54 and also on the list if it wasn't discussed and you think it requires discussion.