atom feed60 messages in edu.merit.nanogRe: EU Official: IP Is Personal
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Subject:Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal
From:Fred Baker (fr@cisco.com)
Date:Jan 24, 2008 5:38:04 am
List:edu.merit.nanog

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On Jan 24, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Roland Perry wrote:

no fundamental contradiction in the proposition that private sector information can be mandated to be kept for minimum periods, is confidential, but nevertheless can be acquired by lawful subpoena.

they are if the records are kept for no private sector purpose, which is the case here. The corollary that is being built on is telco call detail records, which were once used in billing. But the ISPs have no use for the data and storing it costs power, cooling, disk-or-other- storage, and so on. Get an ISP or other data center to give you an idea how many megawatts they go through and what that costs... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----

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