60 messages in edu.merit.nanogRe: EU Official: IP Is Personal| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Hank Nussbacher | Jan 23, 2008 3:05 am | |
| Paul Vixie | Jan 23, 2008 9:25 am | |
| Eric Brunner-Williams | Jan 23, 2008 11:53 am | |
| Joel Jaeggli | Jan 23, 2008 2:04 pm | |
| Florian Weimer | Jan 23, 2008 2:05 pm | |
| Joe Greco | Jan 23, 2008 2:29 pm | |
| Sean Donelan | Jan 23, 2008 2:52 pm | |
| Joseph S D Yao | Jan 23, 2008 3:38 pm | |
| Lou Katz | Jan 23, 2008 4:44 pm | |
| Mikael Abrahamsson | Jan 23, 2008 5:09 pm | |
| Fred Baker | Jan 23, 2008 8:02 pm | |
| Eric Brunner-Williams | Jan 23, 2008 8:30 pm | |
| Gadi Evron | Jan 23, 2008 8:46 pm | |
| Paul Ferguson | Jan 23, 2008 9:29 pm | |
| Eric Brunner-Williams | Jan 23, 2008 9:54 pm | |
| Roland Perry | Jan 24, 2008 3:50 am | |
| Roland Perry | Jan 24, 2008 4:31 am | |
| J. Oquendo | Jan 24, 2008 4:56 am | |
| Eric Gauthier | Jan 24, 2008 5:14 am | |
| Rod Beck | Jan 24, 2008 5:30 am | |
| Fred Baker | Jan 24, 2008 5:38 am | |
| J. Oquendo | Jan 24, 2008 5:43 am | |
| J. Oquendo | Jan 24, 2008 5:49 am | |
| Rod Beck | Jan 24, 2008 5:49 am | |
| Jeff McAdams | Jan 24, 2008 5:58 am | |
| J. Oquendo | Jan 24, 2008 5:59 am | |
| Roland Perry | Jan 24, 2008 6:01 am | |
| Roland Perry | Jan 24, 2008 6:06 am | |
| Scott McGrath | Jan 24, 2008 6:09 am | |
| Rod Beck | Jan 24, 2008 6:29 am | |
| Robin Stevens | Jan 24, 2008 7:48 am | |
| J. Oquendo | Jan 24, 2008 8:34 am | |
| Owen DeLong | Jan 24, 2008 2:35 pm | |
| Joel Jaeggli | Jan 24, 2008 3:09 pm | |
| Vald...@vt.edu | Jan 24, 2008 7:44 pm | |
| Scott Francis | Jan 24, 2008 7:58 pm | |
| fr...@cisco.com | Jan 24, 2008 8:39 pm | |
| Vald...@vt.edu | Jan 24, 2008 8:55 pm | |
| Owen DeLong | Jan 24, 2008 10:32 pm | |
| Vald...@vt.edu | Jan 24, 2008 10:49 pm | |
| Matt Palmer | Jan 24, 2008 11:30 pm | |
| mich...@bt.com | Jan 25, 2008 12:08 am | |
| Hank Nussbacher | Jan 25, 2008 12:49 am | |
| Matt Palmer | Jan 25, 2008 1:30 am | |
| Roland Perry | Jan 25, 2008 2:36 am | |
| Roland Perry | Jan 25, 2008 2:39 am | |
| Tim Franklin | Jan 25, 2008 2:41 am | |
| Roland Perry | Jan 25, 2008 2:42 am | |
| Andy Davidson | Jan 25, 2008 3:36 am | |
| Johnny Eriksson | Jan 25, 2008 3:37 am | |
| Roland Perry | Jan 25, 2008 4:51 am | |
| Stephane Bortzmeyer | Jan 25, 2008 6:05 am | |
| Jeff Shultz | Jan 25, 2008 8:29 am | |
| Owen DeLong | Jan 25, 2008 9:39 am | |
| Owen DeLong | Jan 25, 2008 9:45 am | |
| Roland Perry | Jan 25, 2008 10:50 am | |
| Joseph S D Yao | Jan 25, 2008 12:22 pm | |
| Martin Hannigan | Jan 25, 2008 6:50 pm | |
| Eric Brunner-Williams | Jan 26, 2008 12:38 pm | |
| mich...@bt.com | Jan 28, 2008 1:56 am |
| Subject: | Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal | |
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| From: | Fred Baker (fr...@cisco.com) | |
| Date: | Jan 24, 2008 5:38:04 am | |
| List: | edu.merit.nanog | |
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On Jan 24, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Roland Perry wrote:
no fundamental contradiction in the proposition that private sector information can be mandated to be kept for minimum periods, is confidential, but nevertheless can be acquired by lawful subpoena.
they are if the records are kept for no private sector purpose, which is the case here. The corollary that is being built on is telco call detail records, which were once used in billing. But the ISPs have no use for the data and storing it costs power, cooling, disk-or-other- storage, and so on. Get an ISP or other data center to give you an idea how many megawatts they go through and what that costs... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
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