11 messages in com.googlegroups.googletransitRe: Add Los Angeles!
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Jasleen07 Feb 2008 10:34 
kovi...@gmail.com11 Feb 2008 13:53 
mzirino14 Feb 2008 10:47 
Spirited Away10 Mar 2008 16:16 
mzirino11 Mar 2008 10:03 
Accidental Guru11 Mar 2008 14:38 
mzirino12 Mar 2008 13:06 
Pierre-Léo Bourbonnais12 Mar 2008 13:29 
Accidental Guru12 Mar 2008 16:45 
mzirino13 Mar 2008 10:42 
Cary Shapiro13 Mar 2008 10:54 
Subject:Re: Add Los Angeles!
From:mzirino (mzir@gmail.com)
Date:03/12/2008 01:06:24 PM
List:com.googlegroups.googletransit

If that were true, that the main reason that agencies don't put their data on GT because they don't have enough manpower, then they can hire me to do it (I'm a software developer). And if they don't want to hire me, then allow me to farm their routes and scheduling information off their website and submit it to GT without legal consequences (technically challenging but can be done). As far as I remember, Google advised me not to take this route due to potential legal issues. Otherwise, it's a tempting project.

Marco

On Mar 11, 1:38 pm, Accidental Guru <dani@gmail.com> wrote:

The main thing keeping any transit agency from sharing their data is funding. Transit IS departments have no spare bodies or time. It is not a fear of competing with Google, or unlawful use of transit routing information that limits how many agencies post data.

If Google could make creating a Google Transit interface very easy and quick (like setting up a gmail account), then MTA and other agencies will do it. Right now it is a very involved process that requires a significant portion of a full time employee's time each time the bus schedule changes (2-4 times/year). You can't put data out there if you don't have the time to keep it up to date.

I've worked with MTA IS and they are great people who are very good at their jobs, but they have more work to do than hours in the week.

What can you do?

Vote for candidates that want to provide taxes to fund transit instead of more highways and cars.

It will be a cleaner, greener society.

Daniel

On 11 Mrz., 10:04, mzirino <mzir@gmail.com> wrote:

It seems the interests of the riders need to rule, whatever the case may be, and eventually they will. Perhaps Google needs to give the agencies free advertising space on GT so that they can drive traffic to their websites whenever one of their routes is used.

Butwww.mta.netisin my opinion a very weak site for a huge city like LA. No way can MTA compete with Google in aggregating and presenting this kind of data.

Marco

On Mar 11, 9:07 am, Aaron Antrim <aa.@arcatacommunity.org> wrote:> Hi,

Google has to be careful about not alienating agencies -- you would think all the agencies would be happy about GT, but that's not necessarily the case.

That said, I am a transit advocate, and I strongly recommend you post your comment to the MTA here:http://getsatisfaction.com/

It's a really cools site and idea.

Aaron

On Mar 10, 4:17 pm, Spirited Away <asel@gmail.com> wrote:

yes I just did that, i e-mailed cust@metro.net and asked to join Google transit, i hope it workes

i agree that MTA just needs to give access to Google, but i donno what are legal issues?

isnt all this info like maps and routs already available online to anybody?

On Feb 14, 11:48 am, mzirino <mzir@gmail.com> wrote:> Make sure you write
customer service athttp://www.mta.netandtell

them you want MTA on google transit. I actually emailed customer service and they told me that they were working out legal issues with Google. Does anyone know the nature of those legal issues? My honest opinion is that MTA needs to give it's data to Google without restrictions. Then it can be combined with other data, such as stores near drop-off points to make searches really useful. It may really help people adopt public transit more widely.- Hide quoted text -