[p4] Perforce Training - Max Khusid - com.perforce.perforce-user

5 messages in com.perforce.perforce-user[p4] Perforce Training

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Max Khusid	27 Jan 2005 10:43
Libby, Cynthia	28 Jan 2005 09:17
Stephen Vance	28 Jan 2005 12:58
Max Khusid	28 Jan 2005 13:37
Kosinski, Teresa	28 Jan 2005 15:10

Subject:	[p4] Perforce Training
From:	Max Khusid (mkhu...@tabula.com)
Date:	01/28/2005 01:37:36 PM
List:	com.perforce.perforce-user

Thank you all for the comments. This was very valuable, I'm glad I asked.

I'll be a Perforce admin in a small hardware company and will need to train several Perforce users locally. I had previous experience with CVS, and familiarized myself with all major Perforce concepts. Command-line focus of the training doesn't worry me too much b/c we're targeting UNIX and everyone here is comfortable with it. So from what I can gather this course would fit me best, plus I'm sure they cover a lot in 3 days.

Thanks again to all,

max

Stephen Vance wrote:

Max --

As a PCP, I have both attended and given courses. I won't speak to the value of the training except to say that I have had both students who had been using the tool for months and repeat students tell me that they get new things out of the course each time.

The official Perforce 3-day course is broken into 2 days of user material and 1 day of admin material. By default it is commonly targeted for new users with potentially varying levels of previous SCM experience. If you have a PCT give an on-site course, you can often have the target level of the course adjusted.

With a good instructor, you would likely learn new things. Many of the Perforce trainers have been using the product for years in many different environments. Many also have backgrounds in other SCM systems from which to compare and contrast to further enrich the experience. Personally, I have been using Perforce for almost eight years in environments dealing with scientific and engineering programming, embedded controls, Web development, chip development, and IT n-tier applications. My client list ranges from two man shops to large Fortune 100 corporations and I bring extensive software development and project management experience to the table, as well.

Most commonly, PCTs are engaged for on-site training. Typically, if you have more than 4-5 students, it will be cheaper for you to bring in a trainer than to send your people to the public classes.

The Perforce training material is good. Perforce also requires PCTs to submit evaluations from their training engagements to Perforce to ensure that they are delivering to the quality that Perforce expects.

I hope this helps your decisions.

Steve

At 01:43 PM 1/27/2005, Max Khusid wrote:

I'm considering attending Perforce Training soon and would like to justify spending money to my management. I was wondering if anyone on this list attended this course and could share their thoughts on the course.

- How would you rate overall quality of the course, worth the money?

- Is it targeted towards users or admins, novice users or advanced?

- If I'm very familiar with all Perforce documenation, would I learn anything new?

- Is the info well presented, concepts explained, good diagrams included?

Also, I am curious how companies using Perforce approach Perferce traning for the users. Do Perforce admins just write short tutorials, hold training sessions? Or do companies send both Perforce admins and users to Perforce training?

thanks in advance for all replies,

Stephen Vance mailto:steve at vance.com http://www.vance.com/