Re: New Default Theme? not yet - Ryan Foster - org.apache.ofbiz.dev

34 messages in org.apache.ofbiz.devRe: New Default Theme? not yet

From	Sent On	Attachments
David E Jones	Apr 10, 2009 3:21 pm
Ashish Vijaywargiya	Apr 10, 2009 10:43 pm
Bruno Busco	Apr 11, 2009 5:06 pm
Hans Bakker	Apr 11, 2009 7:43 pm
Jacques Le Roux	Apr 12, 2009 3:20 am
Adrian Crum	Apr 12, 2009 9:12 am
Adrian Crum	Apr 12, 2009 11:17 am
Jacques Le Roux	Apr 12, 2009 1:15 pm
Ashish Vijaywargiya	Apr 12, 2009 8:49 pm
Sam Hamilton	Apr 12, 2009 8:58 pm
Jacques Le Roux	Apr 14, 2009 1:15 pm
Ean Schuessler	Apr 14, 2009 2:04 pm
Ryan Foster	Apr 14, 2009 6:25 pm
Tim Ruppert	Apr 14, 2009 7:47 pm
Tim Ruppert	Apr 14, 2009 7:50 pm
Tim Ruppert	Apr 14, 2009 7:52 pm
Scott Gray	Apr 14, 2009 8:00 pm
Ryan Foster	Apr 14, 2009 8:14 pm
Tim Ruppert	Apr 14, 2009 8:16 pm
Jacques Le Roux	Apr 15, 2009 12:10 am
Tim Ruppert	Apr 15, 2009 12:19 am
Ryan Foster	Apr 15, 2009 9:39 am	.png
Jacques Le Roux	Apr 15, 2009 4:13 pm
Jacques Le Roux	Apr 15, 2009 4:22 pm
Ean Schuessler	Apr 16, 2009 10:16 am
Jacques Le Roux	Apr 16, 2009 12:16 pm
Adrian Crum	Apr 16, 2009 12:36 pm
David E Jones	Apr 16, 2009 3:57 pm
Mike Bates	Apr 16, 2009 4:00 pm
Jacques Le Roux	Apr 16, 2009 4:37 pm
Jacques Le Roux	Apr 16, 2009 4:42 pm
Sam Hamilton	Apr 16, 2009 8:13 pm
Jacques Le Roux	Apr 17, 2009 2:46 am
Jacques Le Roux	Apr 17, 2009 2:50 am

Subject:	Re: New Default Theme? not yet
From:	Ryan Foster (ryan...@hotwaxmedia.com)
Date:	Apr 15, 2009 9:39:14 am
List:	org.apache.ofbiz.dev
Attachments:	Picture 40.png - 34k

No, I don't hate footers ;).

The originally thinking was to give the backend look and feel a more "desktop" like feeling, where most of the information and navigation is located in sidebars, file menus, tabs, etc. Following that line of thinking, maybe we put a "help" link in the header right next to preferences that drops down in a similar fashion to show copyright, link to apache, etc. This would function exactly the same way that the help link functions in apps like Firefox, Mac Mail, Outlook, Word, etc. We could even put a simple keyword search field in this section that searches docs.ofbiz.org. See the screenshot below for an example:

On Apr 15, 2009, at 1:19 AM, Tim Ruppert wrote:

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----- "Jacques Le Roux" <jacq...@les7arts.com> wrote:

Actually the things that IMO are missing are * The ASF copyright and link to a apache.org site * Powered by OFBiz and link to ofbiz.apache.org * Release.revision informations

Only the last is mandatory IMO, but I'm not sure about ASF copyright and a link to OFBiz site would be cool

But maybe they are somewhere and I did not find them (do you hate footers ? ;o) ?

My personal vote is to get a footer that has at least the bottom one because it's super important information and that's where people have become accustomed to looking for it. As for the ASF copyright and the OFBiz logo - those need to be there, but I'm not sure the footer is ever the best place for that.

Designers, what do you think on the placement now that you know that people would like to see it back?

With the update today all issues below are still there For favicon.png I think it should be favicon.ico by the way (did not look into detail but that how it works normally, this was introduced by M$ if I recall well, hence the .ico)

The .ico is up there on ofbiz.apache.org - so Jacques, please feel free to just fix that one straight away.

Also sometimes on XP using FF3 (a pretty classic set I'd say) I get myself stuck, the UI is not responding anymore. I got this issue at least after trying to change themes.

Hmm - try loading it up locally with this as the default theme and see if it's the theme itself or just the JS and CSS getting confused when it switches.

From: "Ryan Foster" <ryan...@hotwaxmedia.com>

I'm not sure if I would say that not having a footer is an issue. Most of what was in the footer has been moved and grouped more logically in the header. For instance, the secondary apps have been grouped with the main apps, and the time zone selection has been grouped with the other user preferences such as theme selection and language. The XHTML and CSS icons have been removed, but if you clicked on the XHTML icon you see that the page does not validate, having several errors.

On Apr 14, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

So far, I found also that : * there is no footer anymore * an issue with favicon.png. * when you choose a theme you have to use Cancel after to apply it. It's like if the last view feature was not working. * the log in webtools is no longer colored * it's not easy to select the PDF version of an order in order view

HTH

I agree with Hans,

From: "Hans Bakker" <mail...@antwebsystems.com>

Hi David,

from a marketing point of view I agree but there are a lot of errors in this schema to correct and that before tuesday? Not very realistic.

after 5 minutes of testing: 1. search results in party: partyId not clickable (error: HOTWAX.buildSearch is not a function) 2. Although the sponsoring from hotwax is very much appreciated, wasn't there an agreement not to use the name in the code but only in other areas as svn log and ?

If you search in all files you will find 59 occurences of hotwax...

3. In general the screens are now formatted much to wide because of spaces and character sizes and other reasons, have a look at : https://localhost3:8443/projectmgr/control/MyTimesheet

Yes, The default size is too large, you need to have a wide screen to see it correctly. Especially with IE with the most current size screen used in the world (1024*768). And even using FF3, Chrome Opera or Safari with a wide screen (1680*1050) you get an issue when looking, for instance, at the Store (the store infos are wrapped). And I don't speak about having a panel open at left, etc. Also the orderview in only one column is not easy to read.

Also maybe we could have a title for each column of Business Area (BTW this needs to be internationalized, maybe some others also...). Something like "Main applications" "Secondary applications", maybe 2 colors also ?

This said, it's really a great effort and I think that there is not much to be done to be near perfection (at least nowadays ;o)

Yes thank you for that !

Let me emphasize that Hotwax and Brainfood brought OFBiz to the next level especially in the framework and graphical design areas. Thank you!

On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:21 -0600, David E Jones wrote:

Now that we have some nice themes in place I'm wondering if we shouldn't change the default theme, especially for the back-end. The old blue-grey-flat theme (which we should probably move to a theme component) is functional and I suppose lightweight too, but perhaps doesn't give the best first impression.

Right now we have 2 alternative themes for the back-end (the bluelight theme and the smoothfeather theme which is meant to look like the new web site), and 1 alternative theme for ecommerce (the multiflex theme).

One issue with all of these is they haven't been tested as thoroughly as the old stuff, but I'm not too worried about that because there are issues with the new default lots of people will see it soon and we should be able to get things fixed pretty fast. In my own testing both of the back-end ones seem pretty solid (I haven't played with the ecommerce one yet).

Anyway, please respond with your thoughts on this. I considered opening a vote, but a general discussion is probably better first (and a vote may not be needed depending on how this discussion goes).

BTW, yes, this is for marketing purposes and should happen before the release branch next Tuesday.

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