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Subject:Re: [PD] auto-completion with popup [was: 3 new gui-plugins]
From:yvan volochine (yvan@gmail.com)
Date:May 7, 2011 11:01:51 am
List:at.iem.pd-list

IMHO it would be better to see what kind of extra libs/plugins are loaded without debug level (it's easy to forget that you have this maybe-buggy thing in your path). I'd vote for posting those by default.

i'd do a gui-plugin that raises the debug-level.

That's always a possibility, you can set the default debug level with a one liner like:

set ::loglevel 4

As for what should be the default behavior, that's a tough question. I've heard from a lot of newbies that having lots of text in the Pd window at startup is quite intimidating, so I think its good to really only show errors and strong warnings by default. More advanced users can hopefully figure out how to set the log level.

I see gui-plugins more like "add-ons" and seeing that some of them behave strangely, I think it's a good habit to have infos about external libs being loaded in default debug level.

from a noob pov it could easily lead to problems such as:

- why is pd behaving strangely suddenly ? - remove all your gui-plugins and try again ? - ooh, I forgot that I used xxx-plugin which is breaking pd !

this kind of infos posted at startup would make sense to me: Gem version x Gridflow version x xxx-plugin version x ...

but maybe that's just me ;) I understand your point though and I'll remove it from my code.

cheers, _y