atom feed59 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-fsRe: Design a journalled file system
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Zhiui ZhangFeb 6, 2001 1:15 pm 
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Karsten W. RohrbachFeb 9, 2001 11:23 am 
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Subject:Re: Design a journalled file system
From:Karsten W. Rohrbach (kars@rohrbach.de)
Date:Feb 9, 2001 11:23:14 am
List:org.freebsd.freebsd-fs

there was a post last year to either -fs or -hackers that described the use of a single disk or block device for logging all writes and committing them afterwards. i think it was presented at usenic last year or 99. can't find it now - please check the mailing list archives. /k

Zhiui Zhang(zzh@cs.binghamton.edu)@Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 04:15:45PM -0500:

I am considering the design of a journalled file system in FreeBSD. I think each transaction corresponds to a file system update operation and will therefore consists of a list of modified buffers. The important thing is that these buffers should not be written to disk until they have been logged into the log area. To do so, we need to pin these buffers in memory for a while. The concept should be simple, but I run into a problem which I have no idea how to solve it:

If you access a lot of files quickly, some vnodes will be reused. These vnodes can contain buffers that are still pinned in the memory because of the write-ahead logging constraints. After a vnode is gone, we have no way to recover its buffers. Note that whenever we need a new vnode, we are in the process of creating a new file. At this point, we can not flush the buffers to the log area. The result is a deadlock.

I could make copies of the buffers that are still pinned, but that incurs memory copy and need buffer headers, which is also a rare resource.

The design is similar to ext3fs of linux (they do not seem to have a vnode layer and they use device + physical block number instead of vnode + logical block number to index buffers, which, I guess, means that buffers can exist after the inode is gone). I know Mckusick has a paper on journalling FFS, but I just want to know if this design can work or not.

Any ideas? Thanks for your help!

-Zhihui

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