| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Simon Shapiro | Aug 27, 1998 9:41 am | |
| Doug Rabson | Aug 27, 1998 2:21 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Aug 27, 1998 5:23 pm | |
| Simon Shapiro | Aug 27, 1998 6:48 pm | |
| Gary Palmer | Aug 27, 1998 7:39 pm | |
| Gary Palmer | Aug 27, 1998 7:47 pm | |
| Doug Rabson | Aug 28, 1998 12:38 am | |
| John Birrell | Aug 28, 1998 1:04 am | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Aug 28, 1998 2:42 am | |
| Simon Shapiro | Aug 28, 1998 10:06 am | |
| Terry Lambert | Aug 28, 1998 10:52 am | |
| Simon Shapiro | Aug 28, 1998 8:04 pm | |
| Matthew Jacob | Aug 28, 1998 8:11 pm | |
| Matthew Jacob | Aug 28, 1998 8:33 pm | |
| Simon Shapiro | Aug 28, 1998 8:50 pm | |
| Warner Losh | Aug 28, 1998 9:14 pm | |
| Simon Shapiro | Aug 28, 1998 9:28 pm | |
| Simon Shapiro | Aug 28, 1998 9:45 pm | |
| Doug Rabson | Aug 29, 1998 12:45 am | |
| John Birrell | Aug 29, 1998 4:12 pm | |
| Simon Shapiro | Aug 29, 1998 4:52 pm | |
| Simon Shapiro | Aug 29, 1998 7:21 pm | |
| Simon Shapiro | Aug 29, 1998 7:25 pm | |
| Doug Rabson | Aug 30, 1998 4:00 am | |
| Doug Rabson | Aug 31, 1998 6:49 am | |
| Simon Shapiro | Aug 31, 1998 7:34 am | |
| Matthew Jacob | Aug 31, 1998 8:17 am | |
| Simon Shapiro | Aug 31, 1998 8:49 am | |
| Doug Rabson | Aug 31, 1998 9:04 am | |
| Chris G. Demetriou | Aug 31, 1998 9:31 am | |
| Matthew Jacob | Aug 31, 1998 11:34 am | |
| Matthew Jacob | Aug 31, 1998 12:25 pm | |
| Simon Shapiro | Aug 31, 1998 12:36 pm | |
| Simon Shapiro | Aug 31, 1998 12:46 pm | |
| Matthew Jacob | Aug 31, 1998 12:59 pm | |
| Simon Shapiro | Aug 31, 1998 1:06 pm | |
| Simon Shapiro | Aug 31, 1998 1:23 pm | |
| Andrew Gallatin | Aug 31, 1998 1:40 pm | |
| Simon Shapiro | Aug 31, 1998 2:27 pm | |
| Simon Shapiro | Aug 31, 1998 2:28 pm | |
| Simon Shapiro | Aug 31, 1998 4:47 pm | |
| Andrew Gallatin | Sep 1, 1998 8:48 am | |
| Matthew Jacob | Sep 1, 1998 9:17 am | |
| Andrew Gallatin | Sep 1, 1998 9:31 am | |
| Matthew Jacob | Sep 1, 1998 9:34 am | |
| Jason Thorpe | Sep 1, 1998 9:51 am | |
| Simon Shapiro | Sep 1, 1998 2:05 pm | |
| Doug Rabson | Sep 2, 1998 1:46 am | |
| Jason Thorpe | Sep 2, 1998 2:52 am | |
| Doug Rabson | Sep 2, 1998 3:18 am | |
| Andrew Gallatin | Sep 2, 1998 5:52 am | |
| Jason Thorpe | Sep 2, 1998 10:02 am |
| Subject: | Re: Alpha Install - oops! | |
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| From: | Simon Shapiro (shi...@simon-shapiro.org) | |
| Date: | Aug 31, 1998 4:47:30 pm | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-alpha | |
Andrew Gallatin, On 31-Aug-98 you wrote:
I think you may have more luck if you power-cycle the box. When I've seen this under NetBSD/alpha, I suspected it was caused by the IDE controller acting as a noise generator, and was able to cure it by disabling the ide controller.
How?
(I think there is a problem we may want to solve here, still)
...
> your mileage may vary.
This happens if you attempt to put an 'unverified' card onto pci bus 0 (and thus expose it to the pyxis DMA bug present in non-GL miatas). See my Miata brain-dump below for an explanation, bearing in mind that a DPW {433,500,600}{a,au} == "Miata" or "MiataGL"
A MiataGL can be distingiushed from a Miata by the presense of a Cypress SIO (aka "PCI Peripheral Controller") chip in place of the Intel SIO chip at Bus 00 Slot 07 (from SRM '>>>show config'). A non-GL Miata has some nasty PCI bugs, including problems doing DMA reads across page boundaries. All Miatas are equipped with a 21x52 pci-pci bridge which breaks up DMA's at page boundaries. The 3 32-bit PCI slots sit behind the ppb. The 2 64-bit slots sit directly on the primary PCI bus. To avoid problems with cards which are not safe for Digital UNIX (eg, they're not certain they don't do DMA reads across page boundaries), DEC put a hack into the SRM console which prevents you from placing unverified cards directly on the primary PCI bus.
If you know a card & its driver are "safe", or if you're on a MiataGL, you can get around this by setting the undocumented SRM console variable 'pci_device_override' to the PCI device id followed by the pci vendor id. Eg, for a card with the VendorID 0x10e8 & Device ID 0x8043, one may use: >>> set pci_device_override 804310e8
In later versions of the firmware, I hear that you can just set it to -1.
On a Miata-GL that I just uncrated this afternoon (with version V6.8-44 of the firmware), pci_device_override no longer needs to be set.
Wow!
Simon
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