47 messages in org.xml.lists.xml-devRe: [xml-dev] Ted Nelson's "XML is Evil"| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Sergio J. Rodriguez M. | Sep 27, 2004 7:07 pm | |
| Liam Quin | Sep 27, 2004 7:53 pm | |
| Eric van der Vlist | Sep 27, 2004 11:00 pm | |
| Bullard, Claude L (Len) | Sep 28, 2004 7:04 am | |
| Hunsberger, Peter | Sep 28, 2004 7:19 am | |
| Bullard, Claude L (Len) | Sep 28, 2004 7:31 am | |
| Hunsberger, Peter | Sep 28, 2004 7:45 am | |
| Bullard, Claude L (Len) | Sep 28, 2004 8:09 am | |
| Jonathan Robie | Sep 28, 2004 9:01 am | |
| Bullard, Claude L (Len) | Sep 28, 2004 9:11 am | |
| Bullard, Claude L (Len) | Sep 28, 2004 9:28 am | |
| Dave Pawson | Sep 28, 2004 9:29 am | |
| Michael Kay | Sep 28, 2004 9:37 am | |
| Hunsberger, Peter | Sep 28, 2004 9:43 am | |
| Hunsberger, Peter | Sep 28, 2004 9:57 am | |
| Micah Dubinko | Sep 28, 2004 9:57 am | |
| Michael Kay | Sep 28, 2004 10:32 am | |
| James Landrum | Sep 28, 2004 10:33 am | |
| Hunsberger, Peter | Sep 28, 2004 10:46 am | |
| Jonathan Robie | Sep 28, 2004 12:22 pm | |
| Seth Johnson | Sep 28, 2004 12:55 pm | |
| Michael Kay | Sep 28, 2004 1:31 pm | |
| Bullard, Claude L (Len) | Sep 28, 2004 1:34 pm | |
| Hunsberger, Peter | Sep 28, 2004 1:59 pm | |
| Jonathan Robie | Sep 28, 2004 2:15 pm | |
| Bullard, Claude L (Len) | Sep 28, 2004 2:26 pm | |
| Hunsberger, Peter | Sep 28, 2004 2:43 pm | |
| Jonathan Robie | Sep 28, 2004 2:46 pm | |
| Michael Kay | Sep 28, 2004 3:45 pm | |
| Rick Marshall | Sep 28, 2004 4:04 pm | |
| Gavin Thomas Nicol | Sep 28, 2004 9:05 pm | |
| Gavin Thomas Nicol | Sep 28, 2004 9:52 pm | |
| Gavin Thomas Nicol | Sep 28, 2004 9:56 pm | |
| Michael Kay | Sep 29, 2004 2:00 am | |
| Sergio J. Rodriguez M. | Sep 29, 2004 9:50 am | |
| Dave Pawson | Sep 29, 2004 9:54 am | |
| Michael Kay | Sep 29, 2004 10:41 am | |
| Rick Marshall | Sep 29, 2004 4:03 pm | |
| Kirkham, Pete (UK) | Sep 30, 2004 1:43 am | |
| Bullard, Claude L (Len) | Sep 30, 2004 6:00 am | |
| Michael Kay | Sep 30, 2004 8:13 am | |
| Bullard, Claude L (Len) | Sep 30, 2004 8:26 am | |
| Tim Bray | Sep 30, 2004 5:30 pm | |
| Gavin Thomas Nicol | Sep 30, 2004 9:40 pm | |
| James Landrum | Oct 1, 2004 9:50 am | |
| Hunsberger, Peter | Oct 1, 2004 2:10 pm | |
| Bullard, Claude L (Len) | Oct 1, 2004 2:22 pm |
| Subject: | Re: [xml-dev] Ted Nelson's "XML is Evil" | |
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| From: | Gavin Thomas Nicol (gt...@rbii.com) | |
| Date: | Sep 28, 2004 9:05:22 pm | |
| List: | org.xml.lists.xml-dev | |
The three layer model he's proposing doesn't seem very different from Durusau's Just In Time Trees combined with a style sheet language and I wouldn't call it a bad idea.
Or Attributed Range Algebra... in fact one of the uses of ARA was to enable something like that. One of the demo's I have here is a database that takes in XML, LaTeX (restricted form) and email messages, and creates a unified markup database/index from it. Anything can be pulled put as XML, treated as XML using a DOM (single implementation for all markup), markup can be suppressed or generated on the fly, etc. The difference is in treating markup as an something interpreted/inferred rather than something truly intrinsic to the data.
I think there is a great deal of power in the model, and remember that Ted Nelson's perspective is usually tinted by the desire for persistent hypermedia linking infrastructure.